Landau sound question
An assortment of posts from original thread started by dizzy.
Posted by dizzy
Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:15 pm
When Landau plays on pop albums and does clean volume swells and clean arrpegiated chords with pitch shift etc.. it sounds like he is going direct. Is he? If not, what amp does he use to generate such a clean glassy sound?—I know what the effects are, i am just curious what the tone generator is.
Posted by techshead
Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:24 pm
now its the od100, suhr badger, dumble, marshall heads. fender amps
in the 80s and early 90s, it was mesa boogie, marshall heads and most importantly the the Soldano x88r preamp with a audio arts eq. The audio arts has a cool sound to it. but i have heard this stuff live on tape and he gets the clean swells with the rack and not going direct. some songs on ” Tales from the bulge” were direct, like ” im buzzed” where he ran into the board. songs like ” judy” on tales were direct then he added symphonic chorus. Also after he stopped using the soldano he used a cae 3 plus preamp for many years. hope that helps.
Posted by Odd-Arne Oseberg
Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:39 pm
On the older records there probably was some direct stuff.
After watching the Wiesendanger (or however it’s spelled) video, it looks like that’s when the EMG loaded Tyler makes an appearance.
Posted by Rackdoctor
Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:41 am
The key to that type tone is the Tyler mid boost and going direct out of the rack to the board. The active preamp adds the glassy top end. Mike also uses a Buring Water with EMGs for a lot of pop direct stuff. It is also cool to blend both the direct and mic signal on the track at the same time.
David
Posted by dizzy
Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:38 am
Thanks Dave
What does he use to get his signal to the board? Does he use the studio preamps or does he have something in his own rack that sends out a line level signal direct to the board?
Posted by Rackdoctor
Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:50 am
His rack interface has direct and 1/4 outs. He also sometimes sends his signal through a mic pre that is in his rig.
David
Posted by markmod
Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:42 am
dizzy,
I set up Mike’s studio rig for a couple years…
There are two XLR outputs (stereo L and R) that are on the front panel of his Bradshaw loop switcher. We never connected that part, we would just instruct the engineer on the session to do this.
Mike’s rig is guitar into amp into speaker cabinet. The rack is POST MIC PREAMP and can only be heard when the XLR cables are connected to the recording console. The effected signal is only audible through the headphone feed or the monitors inside the control room, it depends on where Mike is sitting for the session. Control room or live room.
Yes, I’ve played through the rig for soundchecks to make sure everything is set up OK, and DAMN that thing sounds UNREAL. The Dumble Slidewinder is pretty sweet, too.
Hope this helps you out.
Posted by dizzy
Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:22 am
Thanks—that is straight from the horses mouth!!!
One more question–(or I will probalby ask 6000 more)—when he switches amps does he use an amp switcher or does he just plug the new one in by hand? Also–did you ever watch him track?
Postby markmod
Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:26 am
Mike does not use an amp switcher in the studio. He simply plugs into the CAA-100 or the Dumble by hand for whatever he needs. The amp rig he had before I did his studio setups was different than his current one. Before he implemented the mic preamp he had a Matchless HC-30, Fender Deluxe Reverb, and Marshall Plexi 50 slaved into a THD Hotplate and then powered by two CAA-100 amps out to cabinets. Being in the studios so much, I would run into Mike on occasion and that’s how I know about that older setup.
Yes I have seen Mike track plenty of times, it was always cool to see him do his thing. The guy is just effortless, pure talent. Totally natural. Actually, I’ve seen all the “Greats” track and it’s amazing how good they all are. Don’t even try to attempt, sell your gear! Just kidding.
Posted by VegaBaby
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:12 pm
What I find most interesting about Landau’s setup is that he uses his compressor POST amp/cab. Most guitar players usually use a compressor first in line after the guitar, before everything else…
Posted by megl
Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:31 am
Almost every guitar track you hear on the radio is compressed post cab
/megl
Posted by Odd-Arne Oseberg
Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:05 pm
He does have a Boss CS-3 that he uses in front sometimes.
Posted by zachman
Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:19 pm
I have my Dyna Comp in front (…), and I have my rack compressor to limit everything going into the rack processors. Works GREAT.
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